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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 23:31:54 GMT
Still, I get the feeling all that was just trying to stop people from using hurtful magic.
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Post by Palkia66 on Feb 13, 2016 7:25:23 GMT
Note that any dark magic is harmful, as it harms yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 10:13:53 GMT
Romans 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
I shall not repent for doing no wrong, I shall not repent to my holy father, for I disown my creator. I shall not call upon the name of The Lord, nor shall I speak a word to Him. I do not want any contact with Him. I wish not to stay in His divine place that is heaven, I seek only the truth. The fire truth that God is a sinner. God sends people who do not believe and accept The Lord to eternal damnation in hell. Even if said people are unable to learn of this god, or if they are not evil, yet die before they get the chance to change, be it by sad circumstances or an accident. Yes, once dead, they live forever in hell. Not another chance. The have the chance of their life, an entire life of chance, yet life isn't always fair, some are blinded by hatred and sorrow, some restricted by misfortune and early death.
Everyone was born an innocent child. No child of God deserves to stay in hell eternally. Some may have lack of faith, unable to believe. Can you blame them for certain? And once they die even if they so wish to change, because they now believe, for it is to late. For God has sent them to hell, where he will no longer listen to them. Is that not terrible... God, will send his children, be it corrupted or misguided, to an eternal damnation. I cannot love a God who sins. Yes. God is a sinner. Just like you and me.
Every second of everyday of every year, He sends the disbelievers to hell. I do not wish to speak to a God like that. I refuse any salvation from His son whom he sacrificed. I care not of that act, for God has sinned, far worse then anyone here, and refuses to admit so.
You all say it's your choice. Is it? Really? Truly? If you do not do as God asks, He will send you to hell, prison. Is that freedom, or is that a temporary illusion of freedom? That is controlling, arrogant, immoral and sinful. You should not send humans that some of which don't belong not in hell, to hell, that is the true sin above all else except murder, which it stands by hand in hand.
The only reason I would accept God and his "Gift" is because I wish to be in heaven with my loved one forever, yet if I must go to hell to prove my morals I will. If God knows who I really am and is so shallow as to still send me to hell, I will have been correct in my views of Him. If I go to heaven, I will love God, instated of hate.
Genesis 6:6 "The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled." IMO, this almost seems as if God was Nearly repenting. He made a mistake Because no human and no god is perfect. And that is okay. If, and only if they admit it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 10:37:49 GMT
LeviticusThe Lord said to Moses, 2 “Speak to Aaron and his sons and to all the Israelites and say to them: ‘This is what the Lord has commanded: 3 Any Israelite who sacrifices an ox, a lamb or a goat in the camp or outside of it 4 instead of bringing it to the entrance to the tent of meeting to present it as an offering to the Lord in front of the tabernacle of the Lord—that person shall be considered guilty of bloodshed; they have shed blood and must be cut off from their people. 5 This is so the Israelites will bring to the Lord the sacrifices they are now making in the open fields. They must bring them to the priest, that is, to the Lord, at the entrance to the tent of meeting and sacrifice them as fellowship offerings. 6 The priest is to splash the blood against the altar of the Lord at the entrance to the tent of meeting and burn the fat as an aroma pleasing to the Lord.
7 They must no longer offer any of their sacrifices to the goat idols to whom they prostitute themselves. This is to be a lasting ordinance for them and for the generations to come.’
8 “Say to them: ‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who offers a burnt offering or sacrifice 9 and does not bring it to the entrance to the tent of meeting to sacrifice it to the Lord must be cut off from the people of Israel.
10 “‘I will set my face against any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who eats blood, and I will cut them off from the people. 11 For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.[c] 12 Therefore I say to the Israelites, “None of you may eat blood, nor may any foreigner residing among you eat blood.”
13 “‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among you who hunts any animal or bird that may be eaten must drain out the blood and cover it with earth, 14 because the life of every creature is its blood. That is why I have said to the Israelites, “You must not eat the blood of any creature, because the life of every creature is its blood; anyone who eats it must be cut off.”
15 “‘Anyone, whether native-born or foreigner, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then they will be clean. 16 But if they do not wash their clothes and bathe themselves, they will be held responsible.’”
Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder."
A sacrifice to The Lord of an innocent lamb before Jesus shouldn't have been permitted. The murder of an animal is the same as the murder of a human If not needed for survival. What a hypocrite saying thou shall not murder, yet encouraging it if it is sacrificial. Eating the flesh of an animal is the same as the blood, for the blood feeds the flesh and brings it life. You destroy the life and body that the blood flows through and from, and therefor you destroy the life of the blood. You kill the heart of the creature, the heart, is that not where the blood is produced. It's all the god duckkcud same thing you idiotic fools! Can you not see what is right under your nose?! Have you completely lost your minds? How can you love this God?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 11:18:11 GMT
I've had enough of this religious bullshit. I don't give a darned duckkcud if I lose my eternal stay in heaven with that creepy Lord. I. Don't. Care.I'm not gonna bow down to some loser creator who made such a screwed up planet anyway. What the hell was he thinking, was he completely mad?!? Blast it all, I've been through enough, now my poor soul gets the torment of being stripped of its magic on this earth in this form and is having spiritual warfare over my soul. My soul is M I N E. MINE. It is MY soul after all. No God can take it away from me. I do witchcraft with MY power. I do not make deals with devils, or spirits, OR angels. Only with myself. Also, you're all crazy... Thinking this stuff in the bible is 100% true, or even 75%, anyhow, I believe about 50%. More then I used to, mind you. Like, why is all magic demonic? Technically Gods power is demonic to then. Oh? What's that? You say only witchcraft and using the devils power Is demonic? Who is to say I can't use MY power which is DIVINE. I am Gods daughter by your thoughts after all. Who is to says I'm not a goddess or the like. And now... I will not change myself upon the requests of anyone, or God. I will stay a witch. I will be myself. It is my calling. It is my passion. It is the essence of my true self. I am energy, I am magic, I am power. I do not borrow power from Satan. It is MY own power I use. I can stare into someone's eyes, and yet, I find a deep understanding... Sometimes they are close minded and shallow, sometimes shy yet knowledgable. I can read their expression right down to the fiver of their being. Yes, I can catch a glimpse of their soul. And it scares me. I am terrified of humans. And they should be terrified of me. My fear makes me who I am... I wouldn't give it up for the world. And the same goes for my fear of going to hell. It will drive me to do greater things. To not succumb to all of this brainwashing. My fear is me. I am my emotions. And my pain, I want that too. Like my fear, it adds some adventure to me. No risk no gain. No pain no pleasure. No fear no fearlessness. An eye for an eye.I want my fear ! I want my pain ! I want it ! Because it make me me who I am.And now a cool drawing of a Leviathan from the internet~Because why not ^-^
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 11:54:35 GMT
Genesis 3:16 "To the woman he said, "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
Alt version/// He said to the woman, "I will increase your pain and your labor when you give birth to children. Yet, you will long for your husband, and he will rule you." (I put the NIV and GWT versions do to the slight difference which I found rather intriguing as they could be implied differently)
That is the most picture perfect example of a sexist thing I have ever read. And actually, it's completely and utterly true., which is, pretty sad for some, yet at the same time, just fine for me. So basically, as punishment to Eve, for eating the fruit, he lowered her, woman, below man. Or, more so, not below, but to need him. So generally speaking, men have control over women and rule them, though I believe this only counts when it comes to husband and wife. God had Eve have desire and/or long for her spouse, in which turn would bring children, as per punishment would be painful to labor. And just as the effects of the fruit were passed down, the ability to see both good and evil, this type of curse upon Eve, women, was also passed down. Now, this is pretty serious stuff... You may ask, why do I believe this may be true matter of fact? I'll tell you.
Because me, a very spiritual girl who has a knack for sensing things, can indeed sense the above stated things. I mean, the longing, desire, and oh gods the pain involved with before even children in general, don't mention the suffering every month for a week.
Is this Eves fault? Is this the punishment? Well, I sure think so. In all honesty, everything for me, is confusing, I can't understand parts of myself. Especially the need to be close to someone and get affection. I just can't explain it. It's a sort of instinct but at the same time like some genius curse with a plus side. It seems unreal and past our control. Could perhaps this be a taste of Gods Power (or whoever/whatever the creator is)? or could this purely be a man writing a book trying to make women believe something untrue? Doubt it, as it is true, it is the origin of this that is questionable.
I'll find out someday.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 12:20:28 GMT
Now, let's move into the entire most witches are Wiccans thing!~ Not all witches are Wiccan, some witches may not follow a certain religion. Though usually people see ordinary witches as disbelievers who do " dark magic" and voodoo and Wiccans as people who worship False Gods and therefor have not accepted The Lords salvation and will go to hell. Whoa there, wait a min... Seriously? Not all witches use demonic magic, I wouldn't be caught dead dealing with Satany Magik (Yup, not a typo, I'm sleep deprived and made a nickname for the devil)... Secondly, how do you know the Wiccans Gods are false? And, they're aloud to believe whatever they want, they shouldn't get punished when they die if all this bible stuff is true because the were being individuals and not going by the book. That's wrong, ya know? Good people can have different beliefs and still all be good. They should NOT go to hell. Sooo... I like the Wiccan stuff, not to mention the Horned God is mega awesome. So much better then the stuck up boring God here with no reincarnation * joking, mostly* But I just... See nothing sinful about people not believing what they don't want... I'm REALLY fed up with everyone condemning me for my witchcraft, saying it's santanic and I'll go to hell. Wiccans compared to Christians would think many different things. As every Wiccan can have different beliefs and be accepted. Some may believe in reincarnation, some may believe in paradise. Yet they don't believe in eternal damnation, and I love that about Wiccans. Because that is what should be.And and now a unique drawing of the Horned God from the internet~ Because why not ^-^ Also... OMG YAY MY NEW GIF WORKED! ^.^ It's SO awesome And for the record, I am not a Wiccan
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 13:17:18 GMT
Note that any dark magic is harmful, as it harms yourself. I am perfectly fine. Dark magic is not hurting me. I wouldn't even consider my magic dark :/ For reals its usually not dark magic. And it's NEVER demonic magic. You mentioned something on TMC to me like that God sent you to help, then go help someone else, I'm "hopeless". I have the blood of a witch cruising through my veins. That's a fact. *Sigh* Foolish humans... I do have a dark side. I love manipulating people, watching their reactions... Such insignificant idiots. I see right through them, they're amusing. I can make them full of rage, or sorrow, or joy. Heh. You do know, I felt prayers, God calling me, today. I'm not sure who, but you, Kat, Bubbles, maybe Doctor... Whoever prayed I felt it. All thanks to Kitten for telling me not to cast another spell... If you pray again I'll even consider hexing you all. I know you mean wel, but I'm not listening to God, and I'd rather not feel any energy from him. I came to TBC hoping to get help with becoming partially catholic. Instead, I get a bunch of prayers tossed at me and people telling me to repent. Well guess what, you made me want to NOT be catholic.
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Post by (You know who I am-Michael) on Feb 13, 2016 13:32:53 GMT
....... Okay..
I've looked...
Uhh, Kat, you don't mind if I call your group narrow-minded, do you?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 13:35:16 GMT
....... Okay.. I've looked... Uhh, Kat, you don't mind if I call your group narrow-minded, do you? Look whos here, hello Michael. *Watches as Kat becomes disturbed by you being here*
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Post by Michael on Feb 13, 2016 13:37:29 GMT
Hi Issi!
Yes...
I honestly should take over this place so that it isn't ruled over without regard for beliefs that don't align with Kat's.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 13:40:05 GMT
Lol. She means well but idk :/
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Post by Michael on Feb 13, 2016 13:41:04 GMT
*Takes a position on the sidelines, and watches to see what happens to respond to.*
(No offense... I'm not religious myself. But I do so dislike when people gang up on others.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 13:44:30 GMT
(I see, I dont like being ganged up on, )
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Post by Michael on Feb 13, 2016 13:47:18 GMT
Lol. She means well but idk :/ Yeah.. I know she does. I'm just upset cause, after everything that happened, she still isn't even trying to be conscious of what she does... I mean, I'm not religious or anything, but doesn't giving people lots of grief y'know, make stuff go wrong? Like, doesn't it create bad stuff? and, she's doing it without ever noticing...
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