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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 22:46:06 GMT
I don't FOLLOW a specific religion, not believe the bible version of it all is completely true.
I have my own religion, kind of in the grey, I am very much a witch, do not question my beliefs.
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Post by Constanze on Feb 11, 2016 22:46:48 GMT
oh, it's fine that you're busy. no pressure here.
i missed the edit, oops.
if you died right now, according to the Bible, the only reason you may go to Hell and not Heaven is because you haven't believed that God sent His son Jesus to cleanse you of your sins, and asked Him to come into your heart. because we all do bad things; no one can deny that. to God, all sin is the same (aside from the one unforgivable sin) so if you don't trust Him to come into your life, it doesn't matter whether your sin was lust, murder, or witchcraft. but if you do choose to trust Him, the sin doesn't matter anymore.
a Christian cannot just go around sinning all they want because they know they're saved and nothing can prevent them from going to heaven. of course we're not perfect or invincible to sin, we just try our best to avoid it. but, once you're saved, any sin you commit will be forgiven. nothing can break that bond you have with God anymore.
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Post by Kat on Feb 11, 2016 22:47:03 GMT
You're here questioning ours..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 22:47:25 GMT
that's fair; but even with athiesm, there is division. in any group that exists on this earth, there will be division. this is because, obviously, everyone has a different personality and opinion. this can cause groups to be seen as bad in their entirety due to the actions of certain members. like islamic terrorists and the westboro baptist church, who do undesirable things and make the islamic and Christian groups look bad to outsiders. nobody really likes division, that's just how this life is. even in marriage, a bond of love, there is division. in families, there are divisions. there's no getting around it. personally i find the idea of a creator to be more logical than creation from nothing. especially if you really scrutinize science and all this other stuff. our atmosphere, our earth's position in the solar system, and so many other things make our life here on earth possible; it's really hard for me to believe that all these intricate things that regulate our lives can be an accident, a big bang. sometimes i have doubted the existence of a God myself. i'm certain everybody has. it just seems more logical to me, and gives me much more of a purpose to keep living. You have a point... My marriage will not be divided though. Or my family. I want everything around me to work in utter harmony, no need for words. It all flows together... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 22:48:03 GMT
you being a witch isn't an unforgivable sin.. if it was my dad wouldn't be forgiven. He forgave dad.. he can forgive you But if I do not ask for forgiveness, is it not unforgivable? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 22:50:11 GMT
oh, it's fine that you're busy. no pressure here. i missed the edit, oops. if you died right now, according to the Bible, the only reason you may go to Hell and not Heaven is because you haven't believed that God sent His son Jesus to cleanse you of your sins, and asked Him to come into your heart. because we all do bad things; no one can deny that. to God, all sin is the same (aside from the one unforgivable sin) so if you don't trust Him to come into your life, it doesn't matter whether your sin was lust, murder, or witchcraft. but if you do choose to trust Him, the sin doesn't matter anymore. a Christian cannot just go around sinning all they want because they know they're saved and nothing can prevent them from going to heaven. of course we're not perfect or invincible to sin, we just try our best to avoid it. but, once you're saved, any sin you commit will be forgiven. nothing can break that bond you have with God anymore. I don't want a bond with God. And I believe witchcraft as I practice it is not a sin. If I say it's in my blood, then how is my being myself a sin. |
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Post by Constanze on Feb 11, 2016 22:51:03 GMT
that's fair; but even with athiesm, there is division. in any group that exists on this earth, there will be division. this is because, obviously, everyone has a different personality and opinion. this can cause groups to be seen as bad in their entirety due to the actions of certain members. like islamic terrorists and the westboro baptist church, who do undesirable things and make the islamic and Christian groups look bad to outsiders. nobody really likes division, that's just how this life is. even in marriage, a bond of love, there is division. in families, there are divisions. there's no getting around it. personally i find the idea of a creator to be more logical than creation from nothing. especially if you really scrutinize science and all this other stuff. our atmosphere, our earth's position in the solar system, and so many other things make our life here on earth possible; it's really hard for me to believe that all these intricate things that regulate our lives can be an accident, a big bang. sometimes i have doubted the existence of a God myself. i'm certain everybody has. it just seems more logical to me, and gives me much more of a purpose to keep living. You have a point... My marriage will not be divided though. Or my family. I want everything around me to work in utter harmony, no need for words. It all flows together... ideally that would be great, but sadly that has never happened on earth... division is a loose term, it can be used to describe a couple who hate each other and never make contact, or a disagreement about which fast food restaurant would be a better choice to eat at. i was referring more to smaller disagreements rather than something big like divorce |
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Post by Constanze on Feb 11, 2016 22:52:49 GMT
hm.. what is the witchcraft you practice? the witchcraft in the bible refers more to worshipping of false gods and harming others through hexes and whatnot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 22:53:03 GMT
You have a point... My marriage will not be divided though. Or my family. I want everything around me to work in utter harmony, no need for words. It all flows together... ideally that would be great, but sadly that has never happened on earth... division is a loose term, it can be used to describe a couple who hate each other and never make contact, or a disagreement about which fast food restaurant would be a better choice to eat at. i was referring more to smaller disagreements rather than something big like divorce Oh, I know what you meant... And that is my goal. Perfect harmony with my future spouse. I see that as possible. I can read souls slightly, once Ive gotten to know about someone enough. Nothing is impossible. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 22:55:48 GMT
hm.. what is the witchcraft you practice? the witchcraft in the bible refers more to worshipping of false gods and harming others through hexes and whatnot. I suppose I worship "false gods", though, not really a single specific one. I don't harm others who are kind... I'm not evil. I don't want to harm anyone. Though I'll admit on occasion, I have cast some pretty vicious hexes, on certain people who wrecked havoc in my life, or the lives of others. They partially worked, matter of fact. |
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Post by Constanze on Feb 11, 2016 23:01:31 GMT
i see.. well, i've explained all i could. all i can say is, good luck with your life.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 23:08:44 GMT
i see.. well, i've explained all i could. all i can say is, good luck with your life. Thank you.... Also, Kat, for your info, no one has been able to turn me to God as of yet. Not ever in my entire life. I'm not sure if anyone will really understand me, I definitely don't follow the beaten path. I make my own path... I have no guidance, only that from myself. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 23:39:55 GMT
Here is some random stuff I recite. The words really aren't important with spells though... It just helps me get in the mood.
Light to dark
Dark to Light
I shall shine still ever bright
Radiant moon
Dazzling sun
Endless ocean
Countless stars
I seek you from afar
Lend me your courage
For I am that light
For I am that darkness
Light to dark
Dark to light
I shall shine still ever bright
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 1:41:08 GMT
I've pretty much confirmed by traditional Christian beliefs I will be going to hell if I don't repent and cease my witchcraft...
This is depressing.
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Post by ogre on Feb 12, 2016 1:41:28 GMT
[I don't want a bond with God. And I believe witchcraft as I practice it is not a sin. If I say it's in my blood, then how is my being myself a sin. Please allow me to address these points at the moment. First, Why is it that you do not wish to have a relationship with our Lord? Next, why do you believe that your magik path is not a sin? Then... why do you say that witchcraft is in your blood? Answering these will help me to understand where you are coming from, and might make our conversation more helpful to you. thanks |
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