Post by Kat on Mar 23, 2016 21:07:39 GMT
I'm placing this in the admin folder for now, for review from staff before making it public. I have no doubt I'll probably receive negative feedback when it gets placed in The Flutecrafter's Corner.
It's in the title
I'm not religious, never have been. My views and opinions change, and quite honestly, they can be pretty dark. So basically just asking someone to contradict what I say, pose a certain clearness as to what's true and false.
fair enough...
actually, it's not a myth. there is plenty of historical evidence. try again
www.icr.org/biblical-record
Leviticus 20:27 A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.
Why, they get judged so easily? Why should someone kill a human. A part of nature. Everyone is nature. The murderer in prison, the innocent child, the raging bull, the scraggy gull.
Magic is not demonic. Magic is believing in something amazing, that no logic persists to. What is evil about magic. I see no wrong. I don't care... There are good witches, and there are bad witches. You should judge the individual, not what his/her label, or occupation, or beliefs are as you see them.
that's old testament. there's a difference between OT and NT law
carm.org/religious-movements/wicca/burning-times-and-christianity
actually, God placed us above the creatures...
Genesis 1:26 (KJV)
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
we didn't call you a sadist... that's hurling a baseless accusation
God does exist.. he's answered my prayers before
God has not given us the spirit of fear.
2 Timothy 1:7 (KJV)
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
well, what do you know. you're a wiccan
carm.org/religious-movements/wicca/if-youre-wiccan-please-read
your soul either goes to Heaven or Hell when you die depending on whether you've accepted Jesus or not...
John 14:6 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
it makes more sense that God revealed himself to humans, and other religions are a result of demons pretending to be God in order to confuse people..
Revelation 12:9 (KJV)
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Hell does exist because God can't allow sin into heaven. if he didn't punish it, it would mean he accepted sin as ok. since he dissapproves of sin he needs to punish it
so you think you can create a God who is everything you want him to be and nothing else? please stop and think for a minute about how dumb that idea is...
they are the words of God. your offense to this doesn't change facts
that's not what God said...
Matthew 10:28 (KJV)
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
your God is the wrong one.. you're being deceived
Man was created in God's image, and he created woman out of a man's rib.
it wasn't really that they were incapable. woman were supposed to raise the kids while men went hunting. that was the original order of things, not that woman can't do other things. they can. there are strong women out there. it probably wasn't thought about way back then.
ok. so you want science. here you go....
thebibleclub.boards.net/thread/38/welcome-parisite-creation-scientist
you believe the supernatural exists because of magic, yet you think God can't rise from the dead because that's supernatural? XD
ancientcrossroads.org/?p=106
actually, it was God's power. magic is a cheap imitation, so the misunderstanding is partly understandable
I agree occultic dabbling is stupid. please stop doing it :3
I can tell...
he doesn't answer your prayers? let's take a look at the next page shall we?
I already addressed the science thing.
this is why.. you contradicted yourself here.
except that God isn't a dream... you can't prove that he doesn't exist
ter·ri·fy
ˈterəˌfī/Submit
verb
past tense: terrified; past participle: terrified
cause to feel extreme fear.
brave
brāv/Submit
adjective
ready to face and endure danger or pain; showing courage.
are you really ready to face eternity without God? eternity is a long time to be wrong.. too long in fact...
you want to be a dark mage and also be a good witch? that's not possible... it's a contradiction. I get that in Fire emblem it's a possible thing, but that's a video game not meant to be taken seriously
if you accept Christ, then no. if you refuse, then yes. there's no middle ground
you want no affiliation with the one who created you?
and his views aren't wrong. who are you to judge the creator of the universe? He can't allow sin into Heaven because he is holy.
skipping several pages to the next points. :3
Issi, have you ever told a lie, or stole anything? that is sin. everyone sins at some point, so saying you have done no wrong is an incorrect statement. disowning your creator is a silly thing to say. denying him is like trying to deny a bath as a child. your denial will not be respected when you enter eternity
you don't want him, yet you only seek the truth? Jesus is the way the the truth and the life.
saying you don't want God, but you want the truth is basically saying you want to create a "truth" for yourself while ignoring the actual truth...
incorrect assessment
it's because of sin, Issi.. as I've stated before, he can't approve of sin so he must punish it unless they accept being washed in the sinless blood of his son.
we all deserve Hell. that's why God sent his son Jesus to die for us.
Romans 3:10
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
well, yeah. we all deserve Hell...
God doesn't send his children to Hell. his children are those who have accepted him. he sends people who aren't his children to Hell. he doesn't sin. how many times do I need to state that God can't allow sin into heaven? :/
incorrect statement based on misunderstanding...
we all deserve Hell, so I'm not quite sure what your point is against him...
nah. he punishes sin because he doesn't approve of it. if he let everyone go to heaven who has sinned, it would mean he approved. he sent his son to die for us so we wouldn't have to go to hell. try again
it is a choice. there are consequences for actions. you have freedom to choose your actions, but not freedom to choose the consequences.saying God sins by sending people to hell for sinning is like saying someone who robbed a bank shouldn't be sent to prison because it's a sin to send a criminal there. that's not logical thinking
so you're willing to go to eternal torment just to prove a point? what is wrong with you?
everyone deserves Hell... :/
according to God there are no good people
Romans 3:10-12 (KJV)
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
God doesn't make mistakes.
God is perfect. he was upset because man messed up his perfect creation
incorrect analysis. only the blood of a lamb could wash the way the sins of the people at that point in time. God placed us above animals, so an animal life is not the same as a human life. it was a symbol of the lamb of God who was to come. Jesus was the lamb who shed his blood. that's why lamb sacrifices are no longer necesarry
John 1:29 (KJV)
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
actually, the anger coming off of this shows you do care and that you do not wish to admit it.
the creator created it perfect originally. humans messed it all up... we're to blame, not God
mmm... nope.
you got partially stripped of your magic? that's excellent news. I actually prayed that your spells would stop working. it's an answer to prayer. in any case, it wasn't your soul getting stripped. the demons around you were partly blocked from enabling you to play with their power, which they deceitfully convinced you was yours.
The devil is a deceiver. he's the father of lies. demons are deceitful to.
John 8:44(KJV)
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
1 Timothy 4:1 (KJV)
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
it's not your power. that's an illusion
because the Bible is 100% true..
because demons enable it.. duh
ancientcrossroads.org/?p=94
incorrect
Matthew 12:23-26 (KJV)
23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
that's pretty rich, as well as incorrect...
many witches incorrectly believe this.
I'm not afraid of you. God is more powerful than you. you're all talk, fluff bunny.
no, it really doesn't. you're not your emotions.
God cursed man to, so it's not sexist.
Genesis 3:17-19 (KJV)
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
sure thing. not real sure where that came from, though.
carm.org/wicca
carm.org/religious-movements/wicca/are-wiccans-satanists
all Witchcraft is satanic.... duh
how do you know that they're true?
everyone deserves Hell...
if they don't believe in Jesus, they will wind up in Hell. end of story
first off, we didn't condemn you. we merely pointed you towards the truth. stop accusing baselessly.
second off, opinions don't change absolute truth.
yes it is... you have nightmares every night. that's an effect of magic. All magic is dark, as well as demonic..
No you don't... being a witch is a decision. you have a choice
you're not hopeless
you're human to...
that's called enjoying trolling. you just admitted you are a troll.... :/
you'll hex us because we pray for you? that will not stop the prayers. it hasn't stopped me yet, and it won't stop me in the future.
well, yeah... you should repent.. if you hate us for telling you the truth, you can hate us as much as you'd like.
I believe that's it.. let me double check
I missed some things. ok
they can hurt you...
you've spoken to dark spirits?
Issi has spoken to demons=confirmed
she can no longer deny it
you should return to him because he created you and has an amazing plan and purpose for your life, far better than Witchcraft ever could be...
all done
I'm pretty sure everything else got addressed by either dad, Beta, or others.
Feb 11, 2016 12:23:05 GMT @issi said:
Note* I was sleep deprived when I wrote the first page of this I haven't slept at all so I got a bit carried away, don't hate me XDIt's in the title
I'm not religious, never have been. My views and opinions change, and quite honestly, they can be pretty dark. So basically just asking someone to contradict what I say, pose a certain clearness as to what's true and false.
fair enough...
Feb 11, 2016 13:08:46 GMT @issi said:
Can you really truly believe it, a story, a myth. Nothing be legend. Humans trying to find purpose. Trying to make sense of what was happening many years ago before science and order from chaos. Before true knowledge... A book was written to attempt and guide the paths of the many wandering people. I conclude, it is incorrect.actually, it's not a myth. there is plenty of historical evidence. try again
www.icr.org/biblical-record
Feb 11, 2016 13:17:05 GMT @issi said:
Exodus 22:18 You shall not permit a sorceress to live.Leviticus 20:27 A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.
Why, they get judged so easily? Why should someone kill a human. A part of nature. Everyone is nature. The murderer in prison, the innocent child, the raging bull, the scraggy gull.
Magic is not demonic. Magic is believing in something amazing, that no logic persists to. What is evil about magic. I see no wrong. I don't care... There are good witches, and there are bad witches. You should judge the individual, not what his/her label, or occupation, or beliefs are as you see them.
that's old testament. there's a difference between OT and NT law
carm.org/religious-movements/wicca/burning-times-and-christianity
Genesis 9:3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.
Genesis 27:3 Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me venison.
Humans have no right to take the lives of other creatures. Humans are no more superior then an animal. Highly intelligent, perhaps, but that brings about stupidity. Veering away from nature, the true god of the universe. Do I have sharp teeth, or fangs, or claws. The physical strength to hunt and prey and deer and others alike... No... Humans are not carnivores... So why, "highly intelligent people", must you do this? God have humans no right to DESTROY the animals here. Destroy entire species, forevermore. Just as the Dodo Bird, or Passenger Pigeon went extinct. Foolish mankind. Foolish idiotic morons. This isn't intelligent, it's stupid. Humans created a bible, to give reason, order, purpose. Because they were afraid! They couldn't face death, high intelligence brought about fear of the future, thus death... This is all a mere game.
Genesis 27:3 Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me venison.
Humans have no right to take the lives of other creatures. Humans are no more superior then an animal. Highly intelligent, perhaps, but that brings about stupidity. Veering away from nature, the true god of the universe. Do I have sharp teeth, or fangs, or claws. The physical strength to hunt and prey and deer and others alike... No... Humans are not carnivores... So why, "highly intelligent people", must you do this? God have humans no right to DESTROY the animals here. Destroy entire species, forevermore. Just as the Dodo Bird, or Passenger Pigeon went extinct. Foolish mankind. Foolish idiotic morons. This isn't intelligent, it's stupid. Humans created a bible, to give reason, order, purpose. Because they were afraid! They couldn't face death, high intelligence brought about fear of the future, thus death... This is all a mere game.
Genesis 1:26 (KJV)
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
I will die.
I won't go to a heaven like in the stories.
I'm being a sadist you say.
Then prove to me.
I won't go to a heaven like in the stories.
I'm being a sadist you say.
Then prove to me.
That this false by the book god exists.
This god to ease your doubts.
I'm afraid, yes, but that fear makes me stronger.
This god to ease your doubts.
I'm afraid, yes, but that fear makes me stronger.
God has not given us the spirit of fear.
2 Timothy 1:7 (KJV)
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
I'm the weak, I am a piece of god, my own goddess. I'll believe in myself, my own power. The resonating of my soul through this shallow form.
Everyone is a part of everything...
Everyone is a part of everything...
carm.org/religious-movements/wicca/if-youre-wiccan-please-read
There's no death... I believe in souls... Your soul carries on... Shadowed in light or darkness. That is the only heaven or hell.
John 14:6 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
You see...
Humans tried to make sense from chaos... So they wrote and said all those things. When quite honestly they weren't correct. There is truth in it, but, not entirely.
Humans tried to make sense from chaos... So they wrote and said all those things. When quite honestly they weren't correct. There is truth in it, but, not entirely.
Revelation 12:9 (KJV)
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Hell is only to strike fear into humans, to get them to be kind and not give into greed.
But as you can clearly see, no nature or god of mine, would wish such beautiful creatures to go extinct. Therefor, these words, cannot be the words of god.
so you think you can create a God who is everything you want him to be and nothing else? please stop and think for a minute about how dumb that idea is...
they are the words of God. your offense to this doesn't change facts
There's no real hell... Just retribution... No eternal darkness in a giant lava filled chamber with some disgusting Satan guy, nope.
that's not what God said...
Matthew 10:28 (KJV)
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Id quote some more versus but Im to duckkcuded bored too, this bible stuff is making me fall asleep.
I'll just go back to making prayers to my god, and wishes to myself, and hexes, and extraordinary senses of this so called witchcraft for now.
I'll just go back to making prayers to my god, and wishes to myself, and hexes, and extraordinary senses of this so called witchcraft for now.
Genesis 2:22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Genesis 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Man wasn't just invented in gods image and then he was like "hey, he's lonely, so Ill take his rib and make another gender so they can reproduce, I called him man so I'll call her woman, and she can just help the almighty man"
Idk, tbh, the entire bible just send sexist to me. If there was hunting and stuff, why weren't the women hunting to? They're incapable? With weapons it's all the same.
Genesis 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Man wasn't just invented in gods image and then he was like "hey, he's lonely, so Ill take his rib and make another gender so they can reproduce, I called him man so I'll call her woman, and she can just help the almighty man"
Idk, tbh, the entire bible just send sexist to me. If there was hunting and stuff, why weren't the women hunting to? They're incapable? With weapons it's all the same.
it wasn't really that they were incapable. woman were supposed to raise the kids while men went hunting. that was the original order of things, not that woman can't do other things. they can. there are strong women out there. it probably wasn't thought about way back then.
I'm guessing you guys are gonna get concerned and think I'm going to hell or something, or get disturbed by what I said, blah blah blah. Listen, I just want SOMEONE to give me some kind of reason the "Stories" in this bible are real, and some of it is the words of god, or a god, or someone close to god, or something. Because from what Ive read, I could write a better storybook to brainwash terrified humans with false comfort. Go live in oblivion while people do research on the past, and evolution, and how there was no Adam or Eve.
thebibleclub.boards.net/thread/38/welcome-parisite-creation-scientist
Jesus Christ couldn't have been crucified and ruse from the dead. That's impossible.
ancientcrossroads.org/?p=106
That's just impossible. Maybe he didn't die, and somehow recovered. Or the truth got bended overtime. And if he DID die and rise from the dead or something, is that not magic? What the heck is wrong with magic. NOTHING
actually, it was God's power. magic is a cheap imitation, so the misunderstanding is partly understandable
Gods, occult dabbling -.- Ya know, that's just stupid.
Sorry if this seems like such a rant it's just this really pisses me off right now...
I can tell...
This bible God doesn't answer my prayers. The prayers of millions. It's not real... I DO believe in things without proof, I believe in the magic of everyones of soul. Yet, I cannot seem to grasp the meaning of what people hundreds of years ago trying to make logic with no scientific knowledge in some dusty old book.
I already addressed the science thing.
...I never spoke with God... I mean... not a prayer... not a word... nothing.
True... As I said though, there are truths in stories.
True... As I said though, there are truths in stories.
You're all so happy following your little hope... I DONT DO THAT! I'm not going to just go along and have a fake peace of mind. I want to have peace of mind with whatever happens to me at the end when I die. No regrets, no remorse, no fear. That's what I want. I don't need to cling to dreams...
Because, I'm the one who's the most terrified of them all... So, doesn't that make me the bravest
ˈterəˌfī/Submit
verb
past tense: terrified; past participle: terrified
cause to feel extreme fear.
brave
brāv/Submit
adjective
ready to face and endure danger or pain; showing courage.
are you really ready to face eternity without God? eternity is a long time to be wrong.. too long in fact...
And guess what, I LOVE magic. I'm not that great at it yet, but I'm getting better and more experienced by the day. And no one can stop me from my crazy dreams of being a Dark Mage. Not much appeals to me more then witchcraft, when I'm older, I'll probably wear long gloves and a hat. So go on, mock a nic witch like me and then have no problem when people talk about scapegoats which I think is wrong. I'm a GOOD WITCH. Nothing wrong with that.
Now answer me truthfully, would your god condemn me for this, would he banish me to hell? Forcibly take away everything in my heart, separate me from the people dear to me going to "heaven", and expect me not to buy out peoples souls for the devil after living in eternal horror.
If that god exists, I want no affiliation with him, nor his incorrect bloody duckkcud wrong views.
and his views aren't wrong. who are you to judge the creator of the universe? He can't allow sin into Heaven because he is holy.
skipping several pages to the next points. :3
Romans 10:13
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
I shall not repent for doing no wrong, I shall not repent to my holy father, for I disown my creator.
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
I shall not repent for doing no wrong, I shall not repent to my holy father, for I disown my creator.
Issi, have you ever told a lie, or stole anything? that is sin. everyone sins at some point, so saying you have done no wrong is an incorrect statement. disowning your creator is a silly thing to say. denying him is like trying to deny a bath as a child. your denial will not be respected when you enter eternity
I shall not call upon the name of The Lord, nor shall I speak a word to Him. I do not want any contact with Him. I wish not to stay in His divine place that is heaven, I seek only the truth
saying you don't want God, but you want the truth is basically saying you want to create a "truth" for yourself while ignoring the actual truth...
The fire truth that God is a sinner
God sends people who do not believe and accept The Lord to eternal duckkcudation in hell. Even if said people are unable to learn of this god, or if they are not evil, yet die before they get the chance to change, be it by sad circumstances or an accident. Yes, once dead, they live forever in hell. Not another chance. The have the chance of their life, an entire life of chance, yet life isn't always fair, some are blinded by hatred and sorrow, some restricted by misfortune and early death.
Everyone was born an innocent child. No child of God deserves to stay in hell eternally.
Romans 3:10
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
ome may have lack of faith, unable to believe. Can you blame them for certain? And once they die even if they so wish to change, because they now believe, for it is to late. For God has sent them to hell, where he will no longer listen to them.
Is that not terrible... God, will send his children, be it corrupted or misguided, to an eternal duckkcudation. I cannot love a God who sins.
Yes.
God is a sinner.
Just like you and me
God is a sinner.
Just like you and me
Every second of everyday of every year, He sends the disbelievers to hell.
I do not wish to speak to a God like that. I refuse any salvation from His son whom he sacrificed. I care not of that act, for God has sinned, far worse then anyone here, and refuses to admit so.
You all say it's your choice. Is it? Really? Truly? If you do not do as God asks, He will send you to hell, prison. Is that freedom, or is that a temporary illusion of freedom? That is controlling, arrogant, immoral and sinful. You should not send humans that some of which don't belong not in hell, to hell, that is the true sin above all else except murder, which it stands by hand in hand.
The only reason I would accept God and his "Gift" is because I wish to be in heaven with my loved one forever, yet if I must go to hell to prove my morals I will.
If God knows who I really am and is so shallow as to still send me to hell, I will have been correct in my views of Him. If I go to heaven, I will love God, instated of hate.
according to God there are no good people
Romans 3:10-12 (KJV)
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Genesis 6:6
"The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled."
IMO, this almost seems as if God was Nearly repenting. He made a mistake
Because no human and no god is perfect.
And that is okay.
If, and only if they admit it.
"The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled."
IMO, this almost seems as if God was Nearly repenting. He made a mistake
Because no human and no god is perfect.
And that is okay.
If, and only if they admit it.
God is perfect. he was upset because man messed up his perfect creation
Leviticus
The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Speak to Aaron and his sons and to all the Israelites and say to them: ‘This is what the Lord has commanded: 3 Any Israelite who sacrifices an ox, a lamb or a goat in the camp or outside of it 4 instead of bringing it to the entrance to the tent of meeting to present it as an offering to the Lord in front of the tabernacle of the Lord—that person shall be considered guilty of bloodshed; they have shed blood and must be cut off from their people. 5 This is so the Israelites will bring to the Lord the sacrifices they are now making in the open fields. They must bring them to the priest, that is, to the Lord, at the entrance to the tent of meeting and sacrifice them as fellowship offerings. 6 The priest is to splash the blood against the altar of the Lord at the entrance to the tent of meeting and burn the fat as an aroma pleasing to the Lord.
7 They must no longer offer any of their sacrifices to the goat idols to whom they prostitute themselves. This is to be a lasting ordinance for them and for the generations to come.’
8 “Say to them: ‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who offers a burnt offering or sacrifice 9 and does not bring it to the entrance to the tent of meeting to sacrifice it to the Lord must be cut off from the people of Israel.
10 “‘I will set my face against any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who eats blood, and I will cut them off from the people. 11 For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.[c] 12 Therefore I say to the Israelites, “None of you may eat blood, nor may any foreigner residing among you eat blood.”
13 “‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among you who hunts any animal or bird that may be eaten must drain out the blood and cover it with earth, 14 because the life of every creature is its blood. That is why I have said to the Israelites, “You must not eat the blood of any creature, because the life of every creature is its blood; anyone who eats it must be cut off.”
15 “‘Anyone, whether native-born or foreigner, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then they will be clean. 16 But if they do not wash their clothes and bathe themselves, they will be held responsible.’”
Exodus 20:13
“You shall not murder."
A sacrifice to The Lord of an innocent lamb before Jesus shouldn't have been permitted. The murder of an animal is the same as the murder of a human If not needed for survival.
What a hypocrite saying thou shall not murder, yet encouraging it if it is sacrificial.
Eating the flesh of an animal is the same as the blood, for the blood feeds the flesh and brings it life. You destroy the life and body that the blood flows through and from, and therefor you destroy the life of the blood.
You kill the heart of the creature, the heart, is that not where the blood is produced. It's all the god duckkcud same thing you idiotic fools! Can you not see what is right under your nose?! Have you completely lost your minds? How can you love this God?
The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Speak to Aaron and his sons and to all the Israelites and say to them: ‘This is what the Lord has commanded: 3 Any Israelite who sacrifices an ox, a lamb or a goat in the camp or outside of it 4 instead of bringing it to the entrance to the tent of meeting to present it as an offering to the Lord in front of the tabernacle of the Lord—that person shall be considered guilty of bloodshed; they have shed blood and must be cut off from their people. 5 This is so the Israelites will bring to the Lord the sacrifices they are now making in the open fields. They must bring them to the priest, that is, to the Lord, at the entrance to the tent of meeting and sacrifice them as fellowship offerings. 6 The priest is to splash the blood against the altar of the Lord at the entrance to the tent of meeting and burn the fat as an aroma pleasing to the Lord.
7 They must no longer offer any of their sacrifices to the goat idols to whom they prostitute themselves. This is to be a lasting ordinance for them and for the generations to come.’
8 “Say to them: ‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who offers a burnt offering or sacrifice 9 and does not bring it to the entrance to the tent of meeting to sacrifice it to the Lord must be cut off from the people of Israel.
10 “‘I will set my face against any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who eats blood, and I will cut them off from the people. 11 For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.[c] 12 Therefore I say to the Israelites, “None of you may eat blood, nor may any foreigner residing among you eat blood.”
13 “‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among you who hunts any animal or bird that may be eaten must drain out the blood and cover it with earth, 14 because the life of every creature is its blood. That is why I have said to the Israelites, “You must not eat the blood of any creature, because the life of every creature is its blood; anyone who eats it must be cut off.”
15 “‘Anyone, whether native-born or foreigner, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then they will be clean. 16 But if they do not wash their clothes and bathe themselves, they will be held responsible.’”
Exodus 20:13
“You shall not murder."
A sacrifice to The Lord of an innocent lamb before Jesus shouldn't have been permitted. The murder of an animal is the same as the murder of a human If not needed for survival.
What a hypocrite saying thou shall not murder, yet encouraging it if it is sacrificial.
Eating the flesh of an animal is the same as the blood, for the blood feeds the flesh and brings it life. You destroy the life and body that the blood flows through and from, and therefor you destroy the life of the blood.
You kill the heart of the creature, the heart, is that not where the blood is produced. It's all the god duckkcud same thing you idiotic fools! Can you not see what is right under your nose?! Have you completely lost your minds? How can you love this God?
incorrect analysis. only the blood of a lamb could wash the way the sins of the people at that point in time. God placed us above animals, so an animal life is not the same as a human life. it was a symbol of the lamb of God who was to come. Jesus was the lamb who shed his blood. that's why lamb sacrifices are no longer necesarry
John 1:29 (KJV)
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
I've had enough of this religious bullFloople. I don't give a darned duckkcud if I lose my eternal stay in heaven with that creepy Lord.
I. Don't. Care.
I. Don't. Care.
I'm not gonna bow down to some loser creator who made such a screwed up planet anyway.
What the hell was he thinking, was he completely mad?!? Blast it all, I've been through enough, now my poor soul gets the torment of being stripped of its magic on this earth in this form and is having spiritual warfare over my soul. My soul is M I N E. MINE. It is MY soul after all. No God can take it away from me.
you got partially stripped of your magic? that's excellent news. I actually prayed that your spells would stop working. it's an answer to prayer. in any case, it wasn't your soul getting stripped. the demons around you were partly blocked from enabling you to play with their power, which they deceitfully convinced you was yours.
The devil is a deceiver. he's the father of lies. demons are deceitful to.
John 8:44(KJV)
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
1 Timothy 4:1 (KJV)
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
I do witchcraft with MY power. I do not make deals with devils, or spirits, OR angels. Only with myself.
it's not your power. that's an illusion
Also, you're all crazy... Thinking this stuff in the bible is 100% true, or even 75%, anyhow, I believe about 50%. More then I used to, mind you.
Like, why is all magic demonic?
because demons enable it.. duh
ancientcrossroads.org/?p=94
Technically Gods power is demonic to then.
Matthew 12:23-26 (KJV)
23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
Oh? What's that? You say only witchcraft and using the devils power Is demonic? Who is to say I can't use MY power which is DIVINE. I am Gods daughter by your thoughts after all. Who is to says I'm not a goddess or the like.
And now...
I will not change myself upon the requests of anyone, or God. I will stay a witch. I will be myself. It is my calling. It is my passion. It is the essence of my true self. I am energy, I am magic, I am power. I do not borrow power from Satan. It is MY own power I use.
I will not change myself upon the requests of anyone, or God. I will stay a witch. I will be myself. It is my calling. It is my passion. It is the essence of my true self. I am energy, I am magic, I am power. I do not borrow power from Satan. It is MY own power I use.
I can stare into someone's eyes, and yet, I find a deep understanding... Sometimes they are close minded and shallow, sometimes shy yet knowledgable. I can read their expression right down to the fiver of their being. Yes, I can catch a glimpse of their soul. And it scares me. I am terrified of humans. And they should be terrified of me. My fear makes me who I am... I wouldn't give it up for the world. And the same goes for my fear of going to hell. It will drive me to do greater things. To not succumb to all of this brainwashing. My fear is me.
I am my emotions. And my pain, I want that too. Like my fear, it adds some adventure to me. No risk no gain. No pain no pleasure. No fear no fearlessness. An eye for an eye.
I want my fear ! I want my pain ! I want it ! Because it make me me who I am.
I want my fear ! I want my pain ! I want it ! Because it make me me who I am.
Genesis 3:16
"To the woman he said, "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
Alt version///
He said to the woman, "I will increase your pain and your labor when you give birth to children. Yet, you will long for your husband, and he will rule you."
(I put the NIV and GWT versions do to the slight difference which I found rather intriguing as they could be implied differently)
That is the most picture perfect example of a sexist thing I have ever read. And actually, it's completely and utterly true., which is, pretty sad for some, yet at the same time, just fine for me.
So basically, as punishment to Eve, for eating the fruit, he lowered her, woman, below man. Or, more so, not below, but to need him. So generally speaking, men have control over women and rule them, though I believe this only counts when it comes to husband and wife. God had Eve have desire and/or long for her spouse, in which turn would bring children, as per punishment would be painful to labor. And just as the effects of the fruit were passed down, the ability to see both good and evil, this type of curse upon Eve, women, was also passed down.
Now, this is pretty serious stuff... You may ask, why do I believe this may be true matter of fact? I'll tell you.
Because me, a very spiritual girl who has a knack for sensing things, can indeed sense the above stated things. I mean, the longing, desire, and oh gods the pain involved with before even children in general, don't mention the suffering every month for a week.
Is this Eves fault? Is this the punishment? Well, I sure think so. In all honesty, everything for me, is confusing, I can't understand parts of myself. Especially the need to be close to someone and get affection. I just can't explain it. It's a sort of instinct but at the same time like some genius curse with a plus side. It seems unreal and past our control. Could perhaps this be a taste of Gods Power (or whoever/whatever the creator is)?
or could this purely be a man writing a book trying to make women believe something untrue? Doubt it, as it is true, it is the origin of this that is questionable.
I'll find out someday.
"To the woman he said, "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
Alt version///
He said to the woman, "I will increase your pain and your labor when you give birth to children. Yet, you will long for your husband, and he will rule you."
(I put the NIV and GWT versions do to the slight difference which I found rather intriguing as they could be implied differently)
That is the most picture perfect example of a sexist thing I have ever read. And actually, it's completely and utterly true., which is, pretty sad for some, yet at the same time, just fine for me.
So basically, as punishment to Eve, for eating the fruit, he lowered her, woman, below man. Or, more so, not below, but to need him. So generally speaking, men have control over women and rule them, though I believe this only counts when it comes to husband and wife. God had Eve have desire and/or long for her spouse, in which turn would bring children, as per punishment would be painful to labor. And just as the effects of the fruit were passed down, the ability to see both good and evil, this type of curse upon Eve, women, was also passed down.
Now, this is pretty serious stuff... You may ask, why do I believe this may be true matter of fact? I'll tell you.
Because me, a very spiritual girl who has a knack for sensing things, can indeed sense the above stated things. I mean, the longing, desire, and oh gods the pain involved with before even children in general, don't mention the suffering every month for a week.
Is this Eves fault? Is this the punishment? Well, I sure think so. In all honesty, everything for me, is confusing, I can't understand parts of myself. Especially the need to be close to someone and get affection. I just can't explain it. It's a sort of instinct but at the same time like some genius curse with a plus side. It seems unreal and past our control. Could perhaps this be a taste of Gods Power (or whoever/whatever the creator is)?
or could this purely be a man writing a book trying to make women believe something untrue? Doubt it, as it is true, it is the origin of this that is questionable.
I'll find out someday.
Genesis 3:17-19 (KJV)
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Now, let's move into the entire most witches are Wiccans thing!~
carm.org/wicca
Not all witches are Wiccan, some witches may not follow a certain religion. Though usually people see ordinary witches as disbelievers who do "dark magic" and voodoo and Wiccans as people who worship False Gods and therefor have not accepted The Lords salvation and will go to hell.
Whoa there, wait a min... Seriously? Not all witches use demonic magic, I wouldn't be caught dead dealing with Satany Magik (Yup, not a typo, I'm sleep deprived and made a nickname for the devil)...
Secondly, how do you know the Wiccans Gods are false?
And, they're aloud to believe whatever they want, they shouldn't get punished when they die if all this bible stuff is true because the were being individuals and not going by the book. That's wrong, ya know? Good people can have different beliefs and still all be good. They should NOT go to hell.
Sooo... I like the Wiccan stuff, not to mention the Horned God is mega awesome. So much better then the stuck up boring God here with no reincarnation *joking, mostly* But I just... See nothing sinful about people not believing what they don't want...
I'm REALLY fed up with everyone condemning me for my witchcraft, saying it's santanic and I'll go to hell. Wiccans compared to Christians would think many different things. As every Wiccan can have different beliefs and be accepted. Some may believe in reincarnation, some may believe in paradise. Yet they don't believe in eternal duckkcudation, and I love that about Wiccans. Because that is what should be.
second off, opinions don't change absolute truth.
I am perfectly fine. Dark magic is not hurting me. I wouldn't even consider my magic dark :/ For reals its usually not dark magic. And it's NEVER demonic magic.
You mentioned something on TMC to me like that God sent you to help, then go help someone else, I'm "hopeless". I have the blood of a witch cruising through my veins. That's a fact.
you're not hopeless
*Sigh* Foolish humans...
you're human to...
I do have a dark side. I love manipulating people, watching their reactions... Such insignificant idiots. I see right through them, they're amusing. I can make them full of rage, or sorrow, or joy. Heh.
You do know, I felt prayers, God calling me, today. I'm not sure who, but you, Kat, Bubbles, maybe Doctor... Whoever prayed I felt it. All thanks to Kitten for telling me not to cast another spell... If you pray again I'll even consider hexing you all. I know you mean wel, but I'm not listening to God, and I'd rather not feel any energy from him.
I came to TBC hoping to get help with becoming partially catholic. Instead, I get a bunch of prayers tossed at me and people telling me to repent. Well guess what, you made me want to NOT be catholic.
I believe that's it.. let me double check
I missed some things. ok
Why? Heheheh, because I'm a witch, that's why. I'm not bartering deals with the devil. No one. Nor god.
I don't want Gods power... I want my own power... Demons no need to cower in fear of me... Why would they. As long as no "deals" are made, I'll be friends with any kind of angel, spirit, or demon. They can't hurt me. I believe in myself. I've had dreams where I've spoken to spirits... Some dark. None have ever shown me ill will. I'm not an enemy of God.
I don't want Gods power... I want my own power... Demons no need to cower in fear of me... Why would they. As long as no "deals" are made, I'll be friends with any kind of angel, spirit, or demon. They can't hurt me. I believe in myself. I've had dreams where I've spoken to spirits... Some dark. None have ever shown me ill will. I'm not an enemy of God.
you've spoken to dark spirits?
Issi has spoken to demons=confirmed
she can no longer deny it
And if what you say is infact true, why should I return to my holy father? Why should I not leave and become my own creator. Why should I cease to try to get in touch with my innermost self, cast a harmless spell or two.
all done
I'm pretty sure everything else got addressed by either dad, Beta, or others.
